354: Can’t Lower Your Standards? That’s Not a Flaw – It’s Your Biology.

Evolutionary psychologist, Doug Lisle, PhD discusses listener questions with co-host, Nathan Gershfeld.

Q1: How does one know if or when it is time to settle in dating? I’m 45 years old and have only dated men who I would consider a friend, and have never met anyone who excites me like a romantic partner would. Therefore, I let these men go, kept looking for the next best thing and never found it. Is there a point in life where we should just realize that this partner is the best we are ever going to get even though they are different than what we imagined? Is there a point where we should settle and stop looking even if we are not super excited about that person and how do we know when? At 45 I still consider myself good looking but I’m past my prime, so should I just settle for one of these “friends”?

[0:00] Teaser Clips & Intro

[1:35] Q1 – Should I lower my standards and settle?  I’m 45 and haven’t yet found a partner that excites me.

[5:45] General mood model – where does excitement comes from?

[14:13] A common strategy for women

[18:23] Women are told to lower their standards

[23:41] Why are looks so important?  

[28:40] Changing the strategy

[31:15] A request for David Buss or Geoffrey Miller – is there scientific evidence for Repeat Exposure in women?

[37:11] Things to watch out for.

 

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Web: http://www.beatyourgenes.org

Doug Lisle, PhD http://www.esteemdynamics.com

Nathan Gershfeld, DC http://www.fastingescape.com

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353: Wife hired an escort while I was working, Going to grad school to find a rich husband, Strategies for getting revenge

Evolutionary psychologist, Doug Lisle, PhD discusses listener questions with co-host, Nathan Gershfeld.

[0:00] Teaser Clips & Intro

[0:51] My wife hired an escort but says it wasn’t technically cheating! 

[19:01] I’m going to grad school to find a rich husband, but I’m not that into it

[40:38] Scratching the psychological itch to get revenge

Question 1: Dear Dr. Lisle, I’m a 38 year old male and I work very long hours in finance. My wife, who is 27, and I have been going through a sort of dead bedroom situation for the past few months because I have been working 16-18 hours a day and sleeping about 4 hours per night. She is a housewife so she stays at home all day. Recently I just found out that my wife has been paying for and meeting with a male escort twice a week for the past three months while I was working. She confirmed that they did sleep together every time they met. She says that this is not technically cheating because she paid for his consent, so basically he didn’t want to have sex with her, he just did it for money so this shouldn’t count as cheating. She said there are no romantic feelings between them, but she hired the same guy for the past three months so obviously she’s attracted to him. Then she tried to blame it on me for working too much and not being there for her. Maybe I’m overreacting, but I feel heartbroken and betrayed. Is she right in saying that hiring an escort doesn’t count as cheating? Who is in the wrong here, me for working too much and neglecting her, or her for paying for sex and companionship outside the marriage? I don’t know if I should stay with her or not, I love her but I’m furious with her for taking advantage of my good nature and spending thousands of dollars of my hard earned money so she can sleep with someone else.

Question 2: Is it wrong to go to grad school with the primary goal of finding a smart, conscientious, potentially rich husband? I’m a second year dental school student, but I’m honestly here mostly to put myself in an environment surrounded by intelligent hardworking men, so I can have something in common with them and make them see me as wife material. I’m also hoping the repeat exposure would help. I am scraping by in school, passing but not too passionate about it as my main goal in life is to be a housewife to a rich husband. I’m just hoping to use the doctorate degree as an accessory to attract these men. Am I wrong in the way I’m thinking? P.S. Otherwise, where would I meet such men, on dating apps? I don’t think so.

Question 3: Does Dr. Lisle have any strategies for scratching the psychological itch to get revenge when someone has wronged you? Over two years ago, a long term “friend” betrayed me in an undeniable way and never acknowledged it or seemed remorseful.  We are no longer friends and don’t even talk, but have many mutual friends so he is somewhat in my life. I feel that he owes me a debt and sometimes ruminate about it. I have a near constant underlying feeling that I want him to experience the shock and betrayal that I did, and that I would be willing to facilitate it if I could.  I try to put my energy into developing other, more authentic relationships and into healthy living. Is living well actually the best revenge? I am not feeling that yet and would like to serve it cold instead. Any thoughts?


 

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Web: http://www.beatyourgenes.org

Doug Lisle, PhD http://www.esteemdynamics.com

Nathan Gershfeld, DC http://www.fastingescape.com

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352: My son is demoralized! I married for money 25 years ago, now what? I love my partner, but I want some comparison

Evolutionary psychologist, Doug Lisle, PhD discusses listener questions with co-host, Nathan Gershfeld. 

[0:00] Teaser Clips & Intro

[1:09] My son doesn’t work, spends all day in his room, and lacks interest or motivation

[17:08] What causes motivation?

[21:40] I married a man I don’t love 25 years ago

[42:24] Very happy with my partner of 12 years, but want to experience someone else as a comparison

 

Question 1: I have a very difficult adult child. My 23yo easily got a college degree at 21yo in computer science with excellent grades. Despite the warnings and encouragement, he’s never worked a day. Otherwise a very bright kid, he spends all day in his room online, has no friends or social life. He did about 5 interviews that went horribly and decided he no longer wants to try. He’s been telling us he has no intention of working and does not care what happens. He’s been in therapy and on meds for the last year but it has not helped. We’ve tried to be supportive and firm, but nothing works or makes sense. I don’t see depression, just disinterest, lack of motivation and low confidence. If he needs the car (which is rare) he borrows his mothers. We tried cutting off the internet and access to the car and he spent a month locked in his room without talking to us and lost 20lbs. We don’t buy him anything. We pay for family health care as we are still working and he has a younger brother, but that wont be forever. We pay insurance for 3 cars. Our plan was to retire , sell the house and downsize to the beach in a few years. We still plan to do it, but apparently it will be with him. We worry about his mental state and healthcare. I don’t think any healthy person would chose this path. He has admitted he is losing at life and not very normal – he speaks with a scary level of clarity and self awareness about it. His life and options will be sad and very limited if he does not snap out of this. We worry. Many who have told us to kick him out have not been through this and often don’t even have kids. We never could have seen this coming and we don’t know what to do.

 

Question 2: I’m a 50 year old woman. About 25 years ago I married a man I didn’t and still don’t love only for financially security. I have a college degree but I never worked in my life, not even a summer job in high school or college. If I leave my husband whom I don’t love, I will have to get a job but how can I if I’m 50 years old and never worked. No one will hire me because others my age have 20+ years of experience. Should I just stay with my husband even though I don’t love him?

 

Question 3: I’ve been in a relationship for 12 years, and we’ve been living together for 2 years now. We’re both almost 30, not married, but really happy together— of course, with our ups and downs. We’re very close, but also independent; we make plans together as a couple, but also have our own plans with friends. The sex is good. We’ve never been with anyone else sexually, or even kissed anyone else, which shocks everyone. I’m really happy with him, and I know I want to continue my life with him, with him being the father of my future child. But sometimes, I feel like I’d like to have an experience with someone else— not with anyone specific, just to try it, to have a comparison, or to experience something different. At the same time, I know he wouldn’t want that, and it’s something he would never accept. So, if I were to do this, I’d have to keep it a secret, and I’m really afraid of that— if he finds out, or if it changes how I feel about him. I don’t know. What do you think?


 

X: @BeatYourGenes

Web: http://www.beatyourgenes.org

Doug Lisle, PhD http://www.esteemdynamics.com

Nathan Gershfeld, DC http://www.fastingescape.com

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