340: The TRUTH about Social Anxiety – are extroverts really the outliers?

Evolutionary psychologist, Doug Lisle, PhD discusses listener questions with host, Nathan Gershfeld.  In today’s show, we discuss  different questions on social anxiety and finish with a short question about dating.

1. Is there a social strategy that involves not competing in an effort not to be seen as a threat? I am a woman and believe I notice in myself a tendency to make myself small around other women. I do this in interactions with women who are both more and less attractive than I am. I have lately come to believe the result is often that they dismiss me as not interesting or relevant, although my goal is to make friends. When I force myself to behave more assertively, I have better long term social result, but it is hard to sustain in ongoing interactions and it causes me rumination and social anxiety. Am I afraid of unleashing my competitive side with people who I want to like me?

2. If the point of everything we do is to find mates and reproduce, why do conditions such as social anxiety exist? I have crippling social anxiety which no therapist has ever been able to fix. I’m a 37 year old woman and I’ve never been on a date because I am just terrified of men. I’m not on the apps, and when I go out in public I avoid men at all costs. How did my ancestors ever find a mate and reproduce with this type of behavior? It just seems counterintuitive to the essence of humanity.

3. Is there anything to be done about emotional instability? I’ve always felt like a raw nerve trying to navigate through life. I oscillate between very high and very low emotions constantly and when something goes wrong in life I feel it so deeply I become emotionally paralyzed. It makes having relationships hard, as well as trying to get through day to day life. I don’t want to go on medication but sometimes I feel like a chemical lobotomy would be a relief. Is there anything to be done? If not, can you explain the genetic reason why a person like this might be beneficial to the tribe so I can focus on a silver lining?

4. In personality, is there a difference between disagreeable and difficult? I know some people who are obviously disagreeable and I do the distance thing with them you suggest, and that works for me. But I also have a few people in my life, with OCD and chronic anxiety who can be kind and nice but unpredictable. Sometimes they are very difficult if they are going through an episode, and it doesn’t feel right to just walk away and create distance from the behavior. But usually I can’t actually help much either, and things get very muddy and difficult. Can you help me understand the difference, between a disagreeable person (narcissist) and a difficult person (OCD)? Thank you so much.

5. If love is feeling like you are getting a good deal, then what are some techniques to make women feel that way? What are the best ways to make a woman look up to you and seek your approval as a man? How do I communicate that I am better than her?

Intro [0:00]

Small talk  [1:35]

Question #1 [3:25]

Question #2  [21:18]

Question #3  [32:05]

Question #4 [48:15]

Question #5 [1:02:45]

Wrapping up [1:09:00]

 

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Love him when he’s here, but hate him when he’s away, Solving social anxiety? Are SJW’s really more noble?

Evolutionary psychologist, Doug Lisle, PhD and social scientist, Jen Howk, PhD discuss the following listener questions:

1. I have a friend who is very active in fighting for workers’ rights. In fact he has a high level job in one of my country’s major trade unions. He often organises protests, and is always the first person on the frontline with the megaphone. On a personal level, he is quite overweight, and I know for a fact does not help out much at home with housework and childcare. I used to think that social activists and social justice warriors were high conscientious types. But now I’m wondering if it is actually a mixture of disagreeableness and extraversion. Are people like Rosa Parks and Greta Thunberg, who we hold up as icons, conscientious or disagreeable, or a mixture of both?

2.  I am a woman in my 30s and I struggle with severe social anxiety and it seems like no matter what I do I can’t get better. I’m terrified of wasting any more of my life due to my fears and avoidance behaviors. It’s even difficult for me to hold down a job long term because of how hard it is for me to perform in front of others all day. My love life is nonexistent and I don’t know how to make friends. What is social anxiety exactly? Is it that I’ve been stuck in the ego trap for years because I fear status loss? How can I overcome this? I tell myself I have no status to lose but it doesn’t help. I get so anxious at times I even dissociate. Counselors just tell me to push through it. Doctors just try to put me on medications. I am tired of being crippled with fear every day and watching my days pass me by. I know the life I want isn’t going to come to me while I’m hiding at home. I want to have a life that is meaningful to me but I don’t know what to do.

3. I’ve been with my husband for 5 years. When I am with him I feel so in love, we have lots of good sex, we talk about the future. To me, he’s gorgeous. He can’t believe how much I enjoy his natural scent. But something happens when he isn’t around. I start doubting everything about our relationship, thinking it’s going nowhere, that I married the wrong person. Some of my thoughts are we’re broke, he’s 15 years older than me, I settled down too soon. It feels like I hate him and that he robbed me of my future. Why is this happening? I can’t understand how I can feel so in love and then feel so ambivalent.

 

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Host: Nathan Gershfeld                              

Interviewee: Doug Lisle, Ph.D. and Jen Howk, Ph.D.

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307: Where Does Evolutionary Psychology Evidence Come From?

In today’s show, Dr. Lisle discusses in detail “Where does the evidence for evolutionary psychology come from?”

Our first question from a listener begins, ” I am incredibly fascinated by EP and feel that I have learned so much from the show. I do wonder sometimes though when the questions get answered, what evidence/research is it based on? Assuming the conclusions are inferred… there obviously isn’t a set of randomized control trial which provides the answers. I ask for my own interest but also as to provide additional weight to my recommendations to friends/family to learn about this area as I have been doing for the last couple of years. “

Question # 2 from a different listener:   “What personality traits correlate with people who seek continual simple pleasures in place of higher achievements, even if their community values higher achievements? Such as people who choose alcohol over the success of their career or relationship, or who shirk responsibly because it feel “too hard” or “too much” for them?”

 

Host: Nathan Gershfeld                              

Interviewee: Doug Lisle, Ph.D.

Podcast website:  http://www.BeatYourGenes.org

True to Life seminars with Dr. Lisle and Dr. Howk : http://www.TrueToLife.us

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